Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
I think the right way to think about it is that I'm not attracted to most people, but I can be attracted to people regardless of gender.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
Much like you're probably not attracted to most people, but you are attracted to people of a certain gender maybe.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And so it's the same as being heterosexual in terms of potentially my pool of people who I might be interested in.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
It's just that their gender is irrelevant.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
The biggest thing that researchers find people misunderstand about bisexuality is that it's a phase and that it's this idea that it's transient, that it's always changing and that it's a stepping stone.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
So I think a lot of people still see bisexuality as on the way to gay town, sort of like...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
You're on your way, but you haven't quite committed and you're still stuck in expectations of society.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
You haven't quite let go yet, but really you're gay.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And that's especially true for men.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And so when you look at research on bisexual men, which is actually how the research started.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
So I think now when we think of bisexuality, we think of women.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And it's true that today, twice as many women identify as bisexual as men.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
But if you look at the history of this and the research on bisexuality over time, it was the other way around.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
So someone called Alfred Kinsey was one of the first sexuality researchers in recent history, certainly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And he, after World War II, did this really big study of sexual behavior in the human male, it was called.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
He was a biologist himself.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And so he thought in taxonomies and he was doing research on gall wasps, so insects.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And this idea of human sexuality was sort of thrown at him.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
After the war, because there's also this whole move to get people to reproduce and to rebuild America.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex
And so sexuality was partly, and sex specifically, was becoming more of an area of interest, both in terms of research and in terms of policy and funding.