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Julia Shaw

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1612 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Because that's a hard thing to ask people to do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Or that it approximates a memory in their minds.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

That's right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Rather than just a thing they think kind of sort of happened.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

But other people think that it's an easier to differentiate line.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

So for me, it's almost impossible to differentiate the two.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Other people think it's more clear.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And then in terms of the frequency, so in my research, 70% of people became convinced that they committed a crime that never happened or experienced another important emotional event.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And that number as well is challenged in that people go, well, does that mean that 70% of people can have false memories like this?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And the answer is no, obviously not.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

That's just in my sample.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

That's just these specific six false memories.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And it could be that I think 100% of people are prone to some version of this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Just maybe not in this specific study, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

If I had to come up with different false memory implants or if I was a different person myself and people trusted me differently.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

There's, again, those social factors that make it more or less likely that I'm going to be able to convince you that something happened in your life that you can't remember.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And in one study, obviously, I can't capture that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

But it also doesn't mean that 70% of the time people are, you know, it might be 1% of the time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Or 0.1% of the time that people have these complex false memories.