Julia Shaw

But again, I still think that this interaction between humans and AI or AI-like systems is...

It is the same as a social interaction, which is why I was saying it's so important, I think, that we have social psychologists in the room.

Because ultimately, whether it's an AI or another person, it's the same brain that you're modifying.

I'm not necessarily worried about the fact that

AI and generative AI can create false memories.

That is, again, something we've also been doing for a long time.

Like modified photos is something pre-AI that we had that was already messing with people's minds.

Even just what you have in the frame of a shot.

So if you take a holiday snap and you're omitting

like a really important part of what actually happened on that holiday, because you're taking a picture of the nicest part and not the garbage behind you, that is going to have an impact on your memory as well.

And so versions of that have always existed.

And historically, if you go even further back, I mean, in some ways, we've never been closer to facts than we are now.

There's this whole idea of like, oh, we're living in this post-truth or blah, blah, blah.

But that is not true.

I mean, we didn't even know how to write for a long time.

We had no way of reliably cataloging information, never mind the scientific method, never mind reliably sharing it with one another or fact-checking quickly with things like Google.

So, I mean, we're so close to facts, but...

That in some ways I think is the worry is that we've gotten comfortable feeling like we can just access things that aren't modified or that are less likely to be modified and now they're more likely to be.

And that can interface with our memories.

There is, yeah.