Julian Morgans

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's What It Was Like on Apple, Spotify and YouTube.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's What It Was Like on Apple, Spotify and YouTube.

Hey, I'm Julian Morgans, and you're listening to Scammerland. This is our final episode of the series. And over the last five apps, we've been looking at how online scams are run by people living in slavery in Southeast Asia. We've been following the stories of two people who have been abducted and are trying to escape.

Hey, I'm Julian Morgans, and you're listening to Scammerland. This is our final episode of the series. And over the last five apps, we've been looking at how online scams are run by people living in slavery in Southeast Asia. We've been following the stories of two people who have been abducted and are trying to escape.

And in this last episode, we're following Small Q as he makes a break for freedom. But we're also going to be looking at what all of this means for the world. What do we do now that we know these things exist? Scammer farms are costing us billions of dollars every year. So how are the world's governments trying to deal with this ballooning new threat? Welcome to Scammerland.

And in this last episode, we're following Small Q as he makes a break for freedom. But we're also going to be looking at what all of this means for the world. What do we do now that we know these things exist? Scammer farms are costing us billions of dollars every year. So how are the world's governments trying to deal with this ballooning new threat? Welcome to Scammerland.

Alright, let's start this episode with Small Q. As you'll remember from the last episode, he's been brutally tortured. But he's managed to text a Ugandan ambassador using a phone that he stole from his boss.

Alright, let's start this episode with Small Q. As you'll remember from the last episode, he's been brutally tortured. But he's managed to text a Ugandan ambassador using a phone that he stole from his boss.

This ambassador is a woman named Betty Begombi and she contacted a man named Judah Tanner, who we heard from in the last episode. And they got to work rescuing not just Q, but 22 other Ugandans who had been sold into slavery. But it was taking a while and Q was trying to work as little as possible, just hoping that they'd give up and let him go. We are not productive.

This ambassador is a woman named Betty Begombi and she contacted a man named Judah Tanner, who we heard from in the last episode. And they got to work rescuing not just Q, but 22 other Ugandans who had been sold into slavery. But it was taking a while and Q was trying to work as little as possible, just hoping that they'd give up and let him go. We are not productive.

to get our money back. This wasn't an empty threat. The UN has seen cases where scammer farm victims are murdered and their organs get sold on the black market. So Judah was doing everything he could to get Q out, but it was just taking time.

to get our money back. This wasn't an empty threat. The UN has seen cases where scammer farm victims are murdered and their organs get sold on the black market. So Judah was doing everything he could to get Q out, but it was just taking time.

Meanwhile, what was happening was that Betty Begombi, the Ugandan ambassador, had asked to meet with the Burmese militia leader running the scam farm region. Her plan? Basically, she was just going to ask him to release the Ugandans.

Meanwhile, what was happening was that Betty Begombi, the Ugandan ambassador, had asked to meet with the Burmese militia leader running the scam farm region. Her plan? Basically, she was just going to ask him to release the Ugandans.

Judah, through some people who knew some people who knew some people, was able to set up this meeting. And Betty went in to meet this general who is orchestrating this war against the official Myanmar government. And he's a pretty dangerous man.

Judah, through some people who knew some people who knew some people, was able to set up this meeting. And Betty went in to meet this general who is orchestrating this war against the official Myanmar government. And he's a pretty dangerous man.

And this actually worked. Betty's pleas efficiently moved this warlord and his team took a list of names into the scammer farms to confirm that they had these people.

And this actually worked. Betty's pleas efficiently moved this warlord and his team took a list of names into the scammer farms to confirm that they had these people.