Julian Morgans

I think you'd be forgiven for crying. This is a completely reasonable time to cry.

I think you'd be forgiven for crying. This is a completely reasonable time to cry.

So that is how Katalia got out. And I'd just like to highlight that she really does want a job in law enforcement. She has a degree in criminology and she's got some fairly unparalleled experience working inside these scammer farms. So if anyone listening could use those skills, please get in touch with us via Instagram or TikTok. Links are in our show notes.

So that is how Katalia got out. And I'd just like to highlight that she really does want a job in law enforcement. She has a degree in criminology and she's got some fairly unparalleled experience working inside these scammer farms. So if anyone listening could use those skills, please get in touch with us via Instagram or TikTok. Links are in our show notes.

On the next and final episode of Scammerland, we're going to follow Q as he finally gets out. Also, these farms aren't going away. They're getting bigger as more people fall victim to scams. So we're going to look at how the world is coming together to combat the industry. That's next week on Scammerland. Thanks for listening and please follow.

On the next and final episode of Scammerland, we're going to follow Q as he finally gets out. Also, these farms aren't going away. They're getting bigger as more people fall victim to scams. So we're going to look at how the world is coming together to combat the industry. That's next week on Scammerland. Thanks for listening and please follow.

If you're enjoying this and you'd like to offer some support, the easiest thing that you can do is follow the show. Scammerland is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and Jamie Snyder. It's mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey.

If you're enjoying this and you'd like to offer some support, the easiest thing that you can do is follow the show. Scammerland is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and Jamie Snyder. It's mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey.

And this whole thing has been a Superreal production. Superreal.

And this whole thing has been a Superreal production. Superreal.

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's what it was like on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Just a quick trigger warning on today's episode. It's got some pretty graphic descriptions of torture, so it's probably not suitable for young ears.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's what it was like on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Just a quick trigger warning on today's episode. It's got some pretty graphic descriptions of torture, so it's probably not suitable for young ears.

So this is episode four, and over the last three apps, we've looked at how online scams are run by people living in modern slavery through Southeast Asia. We're following the stories of two people who have been abducted into this system, Catalaya and SmallQ. And at the end of the last app, we heard how SmallQ has come up with an escape plan.

So this is episode four, and over the last three apps, we've looked at how online scams are run by people living in modern slavery through Southeast Asia. We're following the stories of two people who have been abducted into this system, Catalaya and SmallQ. And at the end of the last app, we heard how SmallQ has come up with an escape plan.

He's stolen a phone from his boss, which he's managed to smuggle back into his dormitory. So now the first thing he needs to do is to connect to the Wi-Fi.

He's stolen a phone from his boss, which he's managed to smuggle back into his dormitory. So now the first thing he needs to do is to connect to the Wi-Fi.

And the good thing, the phone had battery. Q was able to download WhatsApp and he immediately contacted his family.

And the good thing, the phone had battery. Q was able to download WhatsApp and he immediately contacted his family.