Julian Morgans

Q says that his new scammer farm was dilapidated and part of their job was to repair the buildings that had been damaged by war and weather. And he spent a lot of his days scamming too, but the bosses, they were never happy and punishments were arbitrarily dished out.

Q says that his new scammer farm was dilapidated and part of their job was to repair the buildings that had been damaged by war and weather. And he spent a lot of his days scamming too, but the bosses, they were never happy and punishments were arbitrarily dished out.

Through all of this, Q kept talking with Betty from the Malaysian embassy. And she kept reaching out to new people and trying new efforts to get the Ugandans released. And she kept saying, just hang on. And Q says that his religious background really helped him through this period.

Through all of this, Q kept talking with Betty from the Malaysian embassy. And she kept reaching out to new people and trying new efforts to get the Ugandans released. And she kept saying, just hang on. And Q says that his religious background really helped him through this period.

But the thing that really helped Q's cause was slacking off at work. In the long run, this made him a less valuable slave, which means that his bosses were less determined to keep him, even if, in the short term, it meant that he was being punished constantly.

But the thing that really helped Q's cause was slacking off at work. In the long run, this made him a less valuable slave, which means that his bosses were less determined to keep him, even if, in the short term, it meant that he was being punished constantly.

Q says that his memories from this time are kind of scattered. The punishments and the days in the dark room, they just sort of became background noise. But he does remember the day that his bosses gave him a taser, just as a sick kind of punishment, and they made him punish his friends.

Q says that his memories from this time are kind of scattered. The punishments and the days in the dark room, they just sort of became background noise. But he does remember the day that his bosses gave him a taser, just as a sick kind of punishment, and they made him punish his friends.

You understand? The people running this compound, they were actually Taiwanese, which is interesting because as we're going to learn later in the series, it was the Taiwanese who largely pioneered this business model. But from Q's perspective, they were somehow even more chaotic and even more violent than his Chinese bosses.

You understand? The people running this compound, they were actually Taiwanese, which is interesting because as we're going to learn later in the series, it was the Taiwanese who largely pioneered this business model. But from Q's perspective, they were somehow even more chaotic and even more violent than his Chinese bosses.

Wow. It's chaos. Q saw violence and death almost every day. But he remained resolute, read his Bible, and barely scammed anyone. And around that time, his SOS message made his way from Betty, the Ugandan commissioner, to a man who works in Thailand named Judah Tanner. And Judah is kind of a big character in this story.

Wow. It's chaos. Q saw violence and death almost every day. But he remained resolute, read his Bible, and barely scammed anyone. And around that time, his SOS message made his way from Betty, the Ugandan commissioner, to a man who works in Thailand named Judah Tanner. And Judah is kind of a big character in this story.

He's an Australian guy, like me, and he'd left his corporate job in Perth to live in Thailand years earlier. And then one day, he just happened to find himself living over the border from Myanmar, watching their very first scammer farms getting built. And since then, Judah and his organization, Advanced Global Projects, they've managed to rescue around a thousand scammer farm survivors.

He's an Australian guy, like me, and he'd left his corporate job in Perth to live in Thailand years earlier. And then one day, he just happened to find himself living over the border from Myanmar, watching their very first scammer farms getting built. And since then, Judah and his organization, Advanced Global Projects, they've managed to rescue around a thousand scammer farm survivors.

In fact, this whole series and its interviews with survivors, it would have never happened without Judah. And Judah just happened to get wind of Q's story.

In fact, this whole series and its interviews with survivors, it would have never happened without Judah. And Judah just happened to get wind of Q's story.

On the next episode of Scammerland, we're going to meet Judah and hear how Q's rescue went down. But we're also going to learn about the twisted history behind Scammer Farms and how people like Judah and Troy, they're actually leading the charge against this industry. That's next week on Scammerland. Thanks for listening, and please follow.

On the next episode of Scammerland, we're going to meet Judah and hear how Q's rescue went down. But we're also going to learn about the twisted history behind Scammer Farms and how people like Judah and Troy, they're actually leading the charge against this industry. That's next week on Scammerland. Thanks for listening, and please follow.

If you're enjoying this and you'd like to offer some support, the single easiest thing that you can do is follow the show. Scammerland is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and Jamie Snyder. It's mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey.

If you're enjoying this and you'd like to offer some support, the single easiest thing that you can do is follow the show. Scammerland is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and Jamie Snyder. It's mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey.