Julie Bindel
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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It wasn't that the police cared that they would be called racist. We know pockets of the police are racist. We know that the police really aren't that hand-strung about it. But the last thing that they wanted to do was have to mop up after the riots.
I think a lot of people choose not to know about stories like this. And whilst we have just this complacency around the most vicious, misogynistic, sadistic online pornography easily available for 10, 11 year olds, even younger, and we pretend that this isn't educating our children into becoming violent, misogynistic psychopaths, then I think we're losing the plot.
Many British people don't want to know the truth about child sexual abuse. When we have scandals such as these rape gangs, when we have the BBC with Jimmy Savile, a prolific abuser who was abusing boys, girls, men, women, and corpses in a hospital where he worked, where we have the most horrific stories such as the one about Lucy, the other girls,
The stories that I've heard in court, listening to some of the testimony of the victims, also keeps me awake at night. And I think that the problem with the British public not digesting this is because we constantly monsterise these men as though they are somehow satanic figures, rather than the men that live and work amongst us, that are in families, that are seen as respectable.
And that's why I'm very cautious in the way that I depict these men. Now, what they do is monstrous. What they do is evil. But these men are able to hide. They don't hide in plain sight. They operate in plain sight. Now, I actually agree with everything.
I agree entirely, Ayaan, but you are wrong about Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson just tells endless lies. I don't trust him. Not at all. He's no hero. And he certainly doesn't give a damn about these girls, in my view. Really, the lies that that man has told are extraordinary. So we disagree on this, Ayaan, respectfully, of course.
When you say feminist, I think you mean the liberal sort that do the whole sex work is work, trans women are women, stripping is good for exercise.
Absolutely right. Absolutely right. They are the cultural relativists who will bend over backwards to defend the most appalling practices of Islam. They defend Sharia courts. They defend the full face veil. They are a disgrace and they have no right to call themselves feminists. It's appalling. And I will not be lumped in with those women. And I know that you're not doing that.
The feminists, of course, but the feminists that I have been in cahoots with for more than four decades campaign to end male violence towards women and girls. We are not cultural relativists. We work across every single issue that affects women, particularly those with cultures that perpetrate the worst violence. violence against women and girls. And I would name that as Islam.
And it's the religion that gets a free pass in my country and elsewhere because it's seen as somehow untouchable, that we're not supposed to challenge it.
We also have to look at moral cowardice and personal cowardice. So when I first published my investigation, into the grooming gangs in 2007 in the Sunday Times, the Guardian wouldn't run it.
I'd asked them repeatedly, and the editor said that we would be seen as racist, despite the fact that she knew I'm a feminist on the left and had been concerned about child sexual abuse committed by perpetrators of all stripes. But even so, there was this cowardice. And when I took it to the Sunday Times,
The first thing that happened that same day was I was put on the website, my name was added to Islamophobia Watch, a website that had been set up by two men, white men on the hard left, who decided any criticism of Islam or Islamists was Islamophobic. Well, I reject the word Islamophobic. So I didn't care that I was on that watch list.
In fact, I was quite proud of it because I thought, good, I've made a mark. There were lots of women, ex-Muslim women, women from different countries living or who escaped living under Islamic rule, who were saying, thank you for publishing this.
All of the white feminists that I knew at the time in the media, not my friends, not my colleagues that were fighting male violence, were also scared to publish it. In fact, some of them came up to me at media events and were saying, oh, oh, you know, that was... They didn't say brave. They said that was risky. I was absolutely sickened and appalled. And that cowardice remains today.
And I still, on one level, I can understand where it comes from because they've chosen to dismiss the lives of huge numbers of women that do live with these violent, abusive men that get away with it because they're seen to be somehow special. But it's unforgivable and I will never forgive it.
What would you disagree with? I'd add misogyny. He's missed that out. I thought it was an excellent report, but he did miss that out. As I was saying earlier, these girls are seen as worthless because they're girls. And then when you add the other demographics, of course, they become even lower scum to those in power and control.
When I was trying to interview people to write the first piece, it took me two years to on and off to do the investigation and to get to speak to people on the record who would admit to any of this. And more often than not, they would say to me,
well, if I'm on the record about the fact that we know that this was cultural and it was a cover up, then it will be very difficult to work within this community. And I said, how can you work in this community? They're talking about with a heavy Pakistani Muslim presence.
When this is going on behind closed doors and on the streets, if you were to speak out, then this would clearly mean that questions would be asked.
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