Julie Bindel
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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But as you said, we had politicians, we had George Galloway, that disgraceful human being who was a member of parliament for Bradford West, a white man who sucked up to Islamists so much that, quite frankly, I think he definitely believed he'd become one.
who told the most outrageous lies about a woman who thankfully kicked him out of his seat, Naz Shah, who herself was from a Muslim background, who wanted to expose the corruption that had been allowed to flourish when he was a member of parliament. Because, of course, the Muslim men, the so-called community leaders, and it's interesting that
white people have no such community leaders, but the so-called community leaders, all older patriarchal Muslim men, would block vote and the women would be told that they had to stay indoors and couldn't vote. So the whole thing was run like a cabal. And in the meantime, the cowardice of social services and sexual health clinics There was no reason for them to stay quiet.
Many of the police were on the take. Yeah, it's true about the sexual favours, but most of them just couldn't be bothered. Like, they usually can't about sexual abuse of women and girls.
But social workers, when they went to the homes and saw what was happening to these girls, the child, Charlene Downs, who went missing, that I wrote about, she went missing in 2003, social workers walked into a bedroom at her home and found an adult man in bed with his trousers down on top of her. And didn't report it, just thought this is what these people do, they're scum.
Oh, Rochdale.
Maggie Oliver is a hero. I definitely would have a statue of Maggie Oliver. I know her very well. She is relentless. She set up a charity since walking out of the police in disgust that supports the victims and raises awareness. Now, Maggie gave 13 years of her life to the police, to Greater Manchester Police.
She was tasked with getting the stories, the statements from some of the victims who trusted her eventually, because you would if you work with Maggie. She's that sort of person. And then, of course, her senior officers let those girls down catastrophically, stratospherically. And I've met these girls, now women. I've interviewed some of these young women.
They are utterly amazing, but their lives have been pretty much destroyed by the betrayal. And one girl in particular who Maggie was trying to help by getting her statement and getting her abusers in court, she was put on the indictment as a perpetrator. when some of the abusers were on trial.
So rather than them being on trial for what they'd done to her, she was called and indicted as a pimp, as a madam. She was a child at the time. And these girls were tasked with bringing back other victims for these men. And these men were extremely dangerous. And as we know, they've murdered girls. So you did what you were told. So imagine being let down by that. And Maggie exposed that.
She spoke about it. She wrote about it. And she now acts to change things. There was also Jane Senior, who was working... within child protection broadly, who also spoke out and she was vilified. But there were very few that did at the time. They really were so few people.
And mostly these girls, when they would go, as I said, to sexual health clinics with the most appalling injuries and diseases and, of course, pregnancies as children, We're not even supported or reported. What sort of a society do we live in where that is not actioned? It's beggar's belief.
But for the whistleblowers, what they did, and I do include a couple of journalists in this who obviously were in a very different situation to those that were going to lose their jobs. as Maggie did, they were the ones that did what the police and what social services and what the Crown Prosecution Service were supposed to be doing and didn't.
I find Elon Musk a repellent human being. The point is that this now has happened and it is on the international stage. And so my concern as a feminist isn't to hark back and think, why won't we listen to? We're rarely listened to. We have to really push and scream and shout. And eventually we are.
But the man that, you know, one of the wealthiest men on the planet who owns the biggest media platform, of course, is going to have a little bit more traction than we do. So it's not about that. It's about what do we do now? What do we do next? How can we keep this on the agenda of child sexual abuse and the perpetrators of child sexual abuse and the failure of the criminal justice system?
Because, of course, there are other issues that are involved. But if it just becomes about immigration, if it just becomes about what I would call a knee-jerk racist response to... Why this happens will take the RI off the endemic problem of child sexual abuse that quite frankly was there before the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs and would certainly be there afterwards.
I mean, I would like to respond in terms of the issue about I absolutely agree that term is misused, overused, used against the wrong people, used to silence constantly. I think what we need to do when we're looking at the endemic problem of childhood sexual abuse is not close the door about the lessons that should have been learned.
for the decades that many of us have been campaigning to end it before the grooming gang phenomenon. And of course, there are specific issues relating to that phenomenon. But as well, it's same old, same old. Complacency within every single criminal justice system that you can... I mean, the incompetence is off the scale. The...
the lack of concern and care about the victims is off the scale and the normalisation of these crimes that are perpetrated by men is also quite astounding. So I think two things can be true.
In many ways, the justice system has completely failed, for example, women. When we look at women being arrested or warned or given cautions for non-crime hate incidents, when you may misgender somebody on social media, it's utterly outrageous.
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