Julie K. Brown

She has access to people in ways that other inmates don't have access.

And I think she is out there trying to orchestrate some kind of a pardon or a clemency.

Right.

And I like to remind people because I often see people really not understanding how involved and how much of a mastermind in some way she was.

of his scheme to abuse young girls.

I mean, she literally would go out to spas and other places where young girls would congregate, and she would literally give them her business card and say, I have a job for you, you will never have to really work, you're beautiful, I have a very wealthy man who can make you a model or who could get you through college.

I mean, they promised these girls

the moon and in addition to that she helped literally abuse them in according to court testimony during our trial there were there were girls young women now but who who were young girls when this happened who testified about how she also participated in the sexual uh abuse

This is actually, I mean, for journalists anyway, for me, it was actually in a way a funny story because I was on assignment in another state when the House Oversight Committee released thousands and thousands of pages on a Friday late afternoon, commonly known as a Friday night news dump when no one is really paying attention.

And so we were I was with another reporter, Claire Healy, who was helping me.

And we were just furiously trying to go through thousands of pages of documents.

And I'm looking over her shoulder at one of the emails and or one of the documents, which includes a calendar listing.

It mentions that he's meeting with a guy by the name of Matt Menschel.

And she she says his name to me and I go, who?

And she goes, Matt Mitchell.

And I was just my jaw dropped because not a lot of people would know necessarily know that name.

But because I've covered this story for so long, I knew that he was one of the top names.

I mean, the criminal, in charge of the criminal division under Alexander Acosta at the time that at least part of this sweetheart deal was negotiated.

And so I just couldn't believe that he would, now this is years later that Epstein is meeting with Matthew Menchel, but why would you be, this is one of the most well-known, notorious

sexual abuser of young girls in our history.