Julie Turkewitz

Correct.

Correct.

And then over the summer, there is a breakthrough.

And we start to hear that there are talks happening between the U.S.

government and the Venezuelan government, in which the U.S.

government is considering releasing these 250-some men from this Salvadoran prison.

And one day in July, this is exactly what happens.

These men are released and sent to Venezuela.

And finally, we have the opportunity to find out what actually happened to these men on the inside.

So I immediately begin speaking with...

a team of reporters who I work with who are inside Venezuela.

And I ask them to race out and begin to document the reunions of these men with their family members.

And from there, all of us as a team, three Venezuelan reporters, a Venezuelan photographer, and myself, we begin these sort of methodical interviews of these men, talking to them about their experiences and what they experienced.

lived through on the inside we start collecting and cross-referencing their stories going back doing follow-up interviews to confirm timelines facts narratives in general we start photographing their injuries their physical conditions talking to them about the after effects of what they experienced gathering medical reports from doctors they've seen

And what emerges is this pretty clear and very consistent account of widespread abuse among the men inside the prison.

The abuse that they describe is physical.

It is psychological.

At times, it is sexual abuse.

And in many cases, the men describe it as torture.

And by the time we finish the reporting, as a team, we have interviewed 40 of these men.