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Julie Turkewitz

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
192 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

This is a very important and fair question.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

Of course, we interviewed 40 of these men.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

Their testimonies were consistent with each other's.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

But we weren't inside the prison.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

We couldn't speak to the guards.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

We couldn't speak to officials in El Salvador.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And so we wanted somebody else to help us understand how much we should believe these testimonies.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And so we reached out to a nonprofit group of forensic experts and we provided them with a summary of the testimony as well as photographs of the injuries, in some cases, doctors' reports.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

Correct.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And what they said was that the testimony and the other evidence that we provided were consistent and credible and they said that in their assessment, much of the abuse that was described met the United Nations definition of torture.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

It's a good question.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And I think that many of us following the story thought that these men might spend the rest of their lives in this prison.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

But the Venezuelan government, which wanted the release of these men...

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

had a bargaining chip.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And that bargaining chip is that the government of Nicolas Maduro, the country's autocrat, had been detaining U.S.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

citizens and U.S.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

residents inside Venezuela over the last year.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

And so by July had amassed a sort of group of 10 U.S.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

prisoners and the government of Venezuela negotiated with the government of the United States the release of these 10 U.S.

The Daily
Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

citizens and residents in exchange for the freedom of these now 252 men who were in the Salvadoran prison.