Julien Laurens

recently.

And I think some of the fans say like, well, you know, he kind of wanted to leave.

He ran down his contract.

What I mean, critical to the club in that sense.

And now you basically...

gave in everything that he wanted, which I can kind of understand, but I think he's a very good defender, one of the best centre-backs in Europe right now.

Because you see their point of view, right?

The thing is, like, the way he played this, kind of like ransom... Yeah, it's a ransom, yeah.

Exactly, to the point that they say, OK, pretty much anything you want, we will give, the signing on fee, the wages, et cetera, et cetera.

And from a fan's point of view, I guess you can be a bit like, well, let him go then.

That's very true too.

Nadam, your former teammate James Milner came on for Carlos Baleba, to go back to that point that we made earlier, and made history on Wednesday night.

Yes.

So he hasn't broken the record.

So, for example, in the 21s, could you see there was going to be longevity because of the way he was off the field or it was too hard?

Because you also play with Gareth Barry, who you know well.

Yeah.

Also legend.

So there's something really interesting.

Well, not interesting.