Julieta Martinelli

It's the first time that we've heard something like self-reflection from Suave about how all of this triggered him and how all of this led to his reaction. And, you know, after weeks of conversations about dying or about going back to prison, I mean, at this point, it is truly just comforting to see him in the flesh, alive, and not in prison.

Over the next several hours, we find ourselves locked in Suave's tiny studio. We set up our chairs around a tiny wooden nightstand while Suave's three cats nuzzle our ankles. And we just talk.

Over the next several hours, we find ourselves locked in Suave's tiny studio. We set up our chairs around a tiny wooden nightstand while Suave's three cats nuzzle our ankles. And we just talk.

Over the next several hours, we find ourselves locked in Suave's tiny studio. We set up our chairs around a tiny wooden nightstand while Suave's three cats nuzzle our ankles. And we just talk.

You said something yesterday that I think is probably in the top three most scariest things that you've ever said. So when you said yesterday, on the sixth anniversary of your release, that you had actually envisioned and prepared for your return, that you knew that there was going to be no coming back, this has me terrified.

You said something yesterday that I think is probably in the top three most scariest things that you've ever said. So when you said yesterday, on the sixth anniversary of your release, that you had actually envisioned and prepared for your return, that you knew that there was going to be no coming back, this has me terrified.

You said something yesterday that I think is probably in the top three most scariest things that you've ever said. So when you said yesterday, on the sixth anniversary of your release, that you had actually envisioned and prepared for your return, that you knew that there was going to be no coming back, this has me terrified.

No, here's what I think. I think we have to do a radical change. That's what I think. And I think that. What's a radical change? Get the fuck out of Philly. Stop being in this place.

No, here's what I think. I think we have to do a radical change. That's what I think. And I think that. What's a radical change? Get the fuck out of Philly. Stop being in this place.

No, here's what I think. I think we have to do a radical change. That's what I think. And I think that. What's a radical change? Get the fuck out of Philly. Stop being in this place.

Bella, we're going to New York. You're talking like you can just pack up and go to prison. You don't have to take shit with you. So my thing is, I understand you.

Bella, we're going to New York. You're talking like you can just pack up and go to prison. You don't have to take shit with you. So my thing is, I understand you.

Bella, we're going to New York. You're talking like you can just pack up and go to prison. You don't have to take shit with you. So my thing is, I understand you.

And the truth is, he's right. I mean, I don't understand. As much as I know Suave, our lives really are incredibly different, right? I wasn't that little boy who grew up in pretty extreme poverty, who experienced a lot of violence around him as part of his daily life. You know, I don't live with the trauma of decades in prison anymore.

And the truth is, he's right. I mean, I don't understand. As much as I know Suave, our lives really are incredibly different, right? I wasn't that little boy who grew up in pretty extreme poverty, who experienced a lot of violence around him as part of his daily life. You know, I don't live with the trauma of decades in prison anymore.

And the truth is, he's right. I mean, I don't understand. As much as I know Suave, our lives really are incredibly different, right? I wasn't that little boy who grew up in pretty extreme poverty, who experienced a lot of violence around him as part of his daily life. You know, I don't live with the trauma of decades in prison anymore.

So, of course, I feel like I'm helping him by trying to offer some solutions. But the thing is, for Suave, just walking away after this kind of violation, kind of just saying, no, no, no, no, don't worry. I'm just going to turn the other cheek. I mean, that's really hard for him.

So, of course, I feel like I'm helping him by trying to offer some solutions. But the thing is, for Suave, just walking away after this kind of violation, kind of just saying, no, no, no, no, don't worry. I'm just going to turn the other cheek. I mean, that's really hard for him.

So, of course, I feel like I'm helping him by trying to offer some solutions. But the thing is, for Suave, just walking away after this kind of violation, kind of just saying, no, no, no, no, don't worry. I'm just going to turn the other cheek. I mean, that's really hard for him.

We talk for hours. It isn't an easy conversation, but it's good to talk. I don't like things which is awkward and weird and like this is intense, but it's like, it's love. And I don't want it to end on some Philly Channel 12, whatever news.