Justin Andrews

You just didn't want to lose by going, because I know that was your concern was like, you'd built your training volume up so high.

That's right.

That it was like, man, am I going to lose gains or lose strength by going in?

Do you think this has more to do with...

the bias of the podcast and the type of listener that listens.

And what I'm speaking to is like, cause we've had tremendous response from all the 15 programs, just how many people are telling stories just like that.

It's completely surprised that they got stronger doing less.

Do you attribute that more to the bias of the listener that we probably have a lot of people that are fitness fanatics and are probably teetering in the overtraining place?

Or do you think it has more to do with just kind of the era that we're in now with the

The constant level of stress and poor sleep and the iPhone and this politics bullshit.

It's got to factor in.

Yeah.

Which one do you think is more of the factor here?

I feel like you just recently got another lesson of that when you were chasing the overhead press PR.

You have to speak to, though, how this fits into building muscle and looking better, right?

Because I understood this logically even as a young trainer, but still fell in the trap of not pursuing and chasing strength and PRs because I was like, all I care about is how I look.

I missed out on a lot of gains, and I missed out on building a lot more muscle because I didn't pursue this.

I was so focused on hypertrophy in the pump and training that way because I don't care if I bench press 315.

I just care if my chest looks good.

Again, everything you guys are talking about, I understood logically as a young trainer.