Justin Bourne

You have this first that you can build around.

And even if you do have to trade Matthews, you're still in a fine position where with whatever you get back from him, plus potentially Gavin McKenna and his promise, plus maybe you have Nylander still.

Like, it's just...

So I went on with Bunkus today.

We talked about this a little bit, and I'll say it here too.

This is total coward stuff, but I just find that if you're –

John Chayka, and your first ever draft with the Toronto Maple Leafs, where on a hope and a prayer, you are given the first overall pick with a guy that has been floating around consensus for two years that he was going to be the first pick in this draft.

I just think the risk of not taking him...

is so much higher than just taking him.

Well, not even that.

Like, say they don't trade out a bit and they just, they take Stenberg because they think he's a better player.

And I know Bukes has been talking about that.

We can get into that a little bit with him.

But, like, you take him, Gavin McKenna goes to the Sharks, and him and Macklin Celebrini light it up for 15 years, and they're on Team Canada, and they win Cups, and the Leafs took Stenberg.

I just find that the way it would be talked about, if you just take McKenna, will be so much less pressure-filled.

And listen, that's not a way to build a team.

Fear isn't a good strategy.

But the perception of it, to me, it's a huge risk to pass on McKenna.

First draft ever.

Like, you know, you got people.