Justin Drake

And then I think there's a big reason why we have so many clients.

And oftentimes we're talking about either single person teams or like small, like two person or three person teams.

And I think this is gonna have interesting consequences in terms of like sustainability, paying for all of these client teams, as well as around governance of how do we make upgrades to Ethereum.

Like on this latter topic, the way that we do governance today, roughly speaking, is that we have five consensus layer clients and they all need to implement the upgrade.

So some sort of EIP in order to move forward.

And if we want in the future, when we have, let's say 10 or 15 clients, we can just require the top 80% or the fastest 80% in order to move forward.

And that's more of a Darwinian competition that allows us to move fast, much, much faster without having to wait for the slowest client.

So the whole straw map has everything laid out up to 2029, which is basically the exact same roadmap that I gave at my DEF CON talk where I introduced the Beam Chain.

And back then, people were just... The one that people hated?

Yes.

It was my most hated slide, TM, because it stretched over four and a half years or whatever.

And historically, I've been bad with timelines.

I've just been way too optimistic.

But as I age and I mature and I have white hair, I've been becoming better at timelines.

And I think it was a realistic slash conservative timeline that got people upset, but that's just the way it is.

relatively confident that, you know, we can meet this 2029 milestone.

And I think there's even an opportunity, you know, if we want to move like faster, thanks to AI.

One piece of good news is that in some sense, we have already done this type of large rewrite, as you alluded to, with the merge.

Like we completely changed the consensus foundations of Ethereum from proof of work to proof of stake.

So that's, in some sense, is an existence proof that it can be done.