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Justin Drake

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Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

two flavors of cryptography, if you will.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

There's real-time cryptography, where you're just signing messages in real time, and there's no material impact on the actions that you made in the past.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And I think here, upgrading to post-content cryptography should be relatively straightforward for most of the internet.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

There are some exceptions.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

For example, if you have new satellites that have already been deployed and you literally can't upgrade them, then they will be signing

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

producing signatures that can be forged, but that's more of the exception.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

Then there is another problem which has to do with encryption, where if there's material that has been encrypted today and you're not using post-quantum secure encryption today, that means that this data can be decrypted in the future.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And there's this whole class of attack called harvest now and decrypt later.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

I think it's realistic that we're going to have

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

mass decryptions in society.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

So we might have lots of signal messages from several years ago, or maybe lots of telegram messages or whatever.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

I don't want to pick on one specific platform or maybe like troves of Gmail messages or all being decrypted simultaneously.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And I think that could have a very significant impact on society.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

Yeah, so on the cryptography, I'm fairly confident about the soundness.

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Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And the reason is that you can prove mathematically that your cryptography is correct.

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Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

So cryptography is a sub-branch of mathematics.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And there is this one exception where you have these hard problems.

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Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And what you try and do, generally speaking, is that you calibrate, you parametrize these hard problems so that if someone were to computationally break the hard problem, it would use more energy than there is in the solar system or something ridiculous like this.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And going back to the cryptographic foundations that we're suggesting for post-quantum Ethereum, which is hashes, it doesn't get any stronger than that.

Bankless
Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake

And this is, in some sense, the weakest cryptography that you could hope to have.