Justin Gardner

But at the same time, there is welcoming room for these people. A lot of these folks, they need to step back and never touch public policy again.

But at the same time, there is welcoming room for these people. A lot of these folks, they need to step back and never touch public policy again.

Well, I think there's going to be a lot of room for that discussion now. What a difference a year make. I think we spoke maybe last year, and I was kind of in the camp of Governor Ron DeSantis, who was a great champion for a lot of anti-COVID policies, proving things right and wrong this way and that.

Well, I think there's going to be a lot of room for that discussion now. What a difference a year make. I think we spoke maybe last year, and I was kind of in the camp of Governor Ron DeSantis, who was a great champion for a lot of anti-COVID policies, proving things right and wrong this way and that.

And I had hoped that his candidacy would help bring light to the recompense that we wanted for the even retribution for the changes that we wanted. So our kids and our grandkids never have to go through that. You know, when his candidacy lost there, I dutifully signed on board. I'm a good soldier myself in the Republican Party. And I signed on with President Trump.

And I had hoped that his candidacy would help bring light to the recompense that we wanted for the even retribution for the changes that we wanted. So our kids and our grandkids never have to go through that. You know, when his candidacy lost there, I dutifully signed on board. I'm a good soldier myself in the Republican Party. And I signed on with President Trump.

But I didn't held high expectations that we would make it. But here we are with nominations, RFK Jr., Jay Bachataria, Marty McCary, all those people you've had on your show. And we have an incredible once-in-a-life opportunity to see some significant changes. Two years ago, Dr. J came with us on the Hill.

But I didn't held high expectations that we would make it. But here we are with nominations, RFK Jr., Jay Bachataria, Marty McCary, all those people you've had on your show. And we have an incredible once-in-a-life opportunity to see some significant changes. Two years ago, Dr. J came with us on the Hill.

We roamed the halls of Congress, and we sat down, we talked to people about the changes we wanted to see at the CDC. One of them is pretty basic, which is the people that make the decisions about the grants of the CDC were also making the policy recommendations for the White House COVID task force.

We roamed the halls of Congress, and we sat down, we talked to people about the changes we wanted to see at the CDC. One of them is pretty basic, which is the people that make the decisions about the grants of the CDC were also making the policy recommendations for the White House COVID task force.

And so, for example, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, both sat on this committee giving away billions of dollars. The chances of, let's say, a study that might come out against masking getting any funding from the NIH were zero because you can't have the policy people look embarrassed and giving money to funding stuff that counters their policy.

And so, for example, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, both sat on this committee giving away billions of dollars. The chances of, let's say, a study that might come out against masking getting any funding from the NIH were zero because you can't have the policy people look embarrassed and giving money to funding stuff that counters their policy.

So having a separation of those powers is a great example of things that we can see change. And I think the other thing that Dr. Bhattacharya is talking about has been that sort of cost benefit analysis, understanding that you need to do an assessment as to, What impact will this have down the road?

So having a separation of those powers is a great example of things that we can see change. And I think the other thing that Dr. Bhattacharya is talking about has been that sort of cost benefit analysis, understanding that you need to do an assessment as to, What impact will this have down the road?

The first year, recall, Dr. Drew, the first signs of real danger were when oncologists started raising alarms in the spring of 2020. And they said, okay, either COVID has cured cancer or something else is happening because we're seeing half as many patients as we used to. And the reason was that people weren't visiting their doctors, were too scared to go to the hospital.

The first year, recall, Dr. Drew, the first signs of real danger were when oncologists started raising alarms in the spring of 2020. And they said, okay, either COVID has cured cancer or something else is happening because we're seeing half as many patients as we used to. And the reason was that people weren't visiting their doctors, were too scared to go to the hospital.

And that compounded, in some cases, we saw drops of 70, 80% in the number of diagnosed cancers or specific very fatal diseases. And this was tragic. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So those are things that, I had to pinch myself sometimes to see Marty McCary at the FDA, this man who basically I hold in great regard. And these are people that are not over their skis.

And that compounded, in some cases, we saw drops of 70, 80% in the number of diagnosed cancers or specific very fatal diseases. And this was tragic. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So those are things that, I had to pinch myself sometimes to see Marty McCary at the FDA, this man who basically I hold in great regard. And these are people that are not over their skis.

They are well-grounded, well-credentialed, well-published people. And I think that our country is going to be much better off for it.

They are well-grounded, well-credentialed, well-published people. And I think that our country is going to be much better off for it.