Justin Garrison

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So Brandon, talk to me about the friction developers feel with integrations, SSO, dealing with rate limits, retries, auth, all the things.

So Brandon, talk to me about the friction developers feel with integrations, SSO, dealing with rate limits, retries, auth, all the things.

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You always have to ask yourself, can I keep doing this? Whenever you're really in any position where you feel like strain, I suppose. I think so. Definitely during the pandemic. You know, there was a lot of pressure on a lot of sides of our lives. So I would say during the pandemic for sure. You know, can I keep going at this clip? Can I keep, is this what I'm doing today sustainable?

You always have to ask yourself, can I keep doing this? Whenever you're really in any position where you feel like strain, I suppose. I think so. Definitely during the pandemic. You know, there was a lot of pressure on a lot of sides of our lives. So I would say during the pandemic for sure. You know, can I keep going at this clip? Can I keep, is this what I'm doing today sustainable?

And if it isn't, how long do I need to keep doing it to get to the next lily pad?

And if it isn't, how long do I need to keep doing it to get to the next lily pad?

Yeah. I mean, I think that's kind of what life is, right? No matter what, you're just like looking for that next lily pad. That's my analogy at least, right? Like you want to be a frog above water. Sure. If you go underwater, you got crocs under there. You got things under there that can get you. Yeah, that's going pretty well.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's kind of what life is, right? No matter what, you're just like looking for that next lily pad. That's my analogy at least, right? Like you want to be a frog above water. Sure. If you go underwater, you got crocs under there. You got things under there that can get you. Yeah, that's going pretty well.

Yeah, I think that's spot on to try to do your best to maintain equilibrium until the next lily pad appears. Sure. Because it could be, you know, too far of a leap and you can land in the water.

Yeah, I think that's spot on to try to do your best to maintain equilibrium until the next lily pad appears. Sure. Because it could be, you know, too far of a leap and you can land in the water.

sure laundromats what was your other one laundromats storage businesses they say those just are less likely to fail they're recession proof things like that yeah they're more like investments than they are like yeah same thing with like you can translate storage units to like mailbox storage people don't want to change their address there's stress and change they don't change

sure laundromats what was your other one laundromats storage businesses they say those just are less likely to fail they're recession proof things like that yeah they're more like investments than they are like yeah same thing with like you can translate storage units to like mailbox storage people don't want to change their address there's stress and change they don't change

They hold off for at least one more year, and that might happen two years or three years. And by then, you've got enough recurring on that person that you're, as a business owner, you're kind of protected or insulated a little bit. There's lots of studies on those boring businesses. Laundromats is something that a lot of towns need. You don't know it until you know it, really.

They hold off for at least one more year, and that might happen two years or three years. And by then, you've got enough recurring on that person that you're, as a business owner, you're kind of protected or insulated a little bit. There's lots of studies on those boring businesses. Laundromats is something that a lot of towns need. You don't know it until you know it, really.

I mean, you've got a lot of people who are in between things and just need a place to wash their stuff. It's like, hey, I need to go to a laundromat and, you know, a high quality one could do a good job.

I mean, you've got a lot of people who are in between things and just need a place to wash their stuff. It's like, hey, I need to go to a laundromat and, you know, a high quality one could do a good job.