Justin Horo

It's more like you've got to go into the comments section.

And I know that's a toxic way to look at things, but that's what I do to build out shows and all that.

And he cops it.

He cops it heavily.

And I'm sure he sees parts of it.

I wonder if there's a hesitancy from –

The media should just go like, we don't want to lose him, right?

Like we don't want to lose him to the game of rugby league, even if it's for a couple of years.

Here we go.

This brings us into this comment, and I think this works perfectly.

It's a nice little segue into Ash Cameron.

I'm always surprised when people talk about Penrith football without clearly defining what it is.

To me, Penrith football isn't primarily about the attack.

It's about defence, rut control, line speed and denying the opposition time and space.

Their whole system is built on winning the middle, slowing down the play of the balls and forcing teams into poor attacking situations.

That's why Queensland remind me so much of Penrith or...

2020 Melbourne right now.

Their defensive fundamentals have been outstanding.

They control the rack, dominate field position, and make attack look far harder than it should.

Listening to a lot of origin analysis, including on podcast and TV, there seems to be a huge focus on attack, shapes, halves, selection debates, but the real story feels like