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Justin Ishbia

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

It's much easier to be playing ball in the industry that's growing than going the other direction.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

But now talking about the perfect type of deal for us, done 59 platforms in the firm's history.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

Average revenue, about $18.5 million, $19 million of revenue.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

Average EBITDA, $3.5 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

paying about seven and a half times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

That's what we've done, levering it two times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

So under-lever, over-equitize, and usually about 80 to 100 employees.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

This is Main Street, not Wall Street.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

And we're buying businesses, but it's in a sector we believe that you create value by consolidation and scale.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

And so back to the veterinary industry as an example, value is created by hiring and partnering with the best veterinarians.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

We love investing in industries where there's much more demand than there is supply.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

So what do we do?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

Try and become the supplier of choices.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

By supply, that means be a place where veterinarians and vet techs want to work.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

If you have great people who want to work with you and demand where it is, then you have a chance to grow it quickly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

So we're buying businesses that I think are in a part of the market that have a price point that is different than what they do at scale for a lot of reasons.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

Imagine teams have not been developed.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

They don't have multiple geographies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

They oftentimes have customer concentration.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]

But we're okay with that.