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I had Shea as well, and I agree with you guys.
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I think when you get down into the weeds of this, Jokic's argument just becomes so tough to ignore just because the empirical evidence is so overwhelming.
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He, I think, has pretty much assured himself that he's going to lead the league in rebounds and assists, and it's the first player to ever do so.
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That's pretty fucking good.
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But I think you guys are right.
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It's not only that Shea has caught up in the catch-all metrics, which is, I think, notable because usually Jokic just dominates those in a way that Shea kind of just pales in comparison.
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I think it's the clutch production as well.
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Shea has had one of the best clutch seasons in recent memory.
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And he's just like, when you think about in the broad sense, like, what is an MVP?
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Who's the most valuable player?
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It's being able to thrive in those moments.
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But I think you're right.
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I think it's the consistency, especially in contrast to Jokic, where Shea broke the record in 20-point games this season.
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In fact, the last time I looked this up, he did not reach 20 points, was October 30th, 2024, in which he had 18 points.
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Unbelievable.
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And he's still on this on this track to add more and more.
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But also, Jokic, when you look back on it, like there was a good two month stretch where he kind of wasn't the guy.
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Part of that was he wasn't available.
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He missed an entire month of the season.
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The Nuggets, notably, were 11 and five during that stretch.