Justin Webb

And when it comes to him and his way of governing, and we've been using the word chaos, does that matter to them?

And when it comes to him and his way of governing, and we've been using the word chaos, does that matter to them?

Let's see if we get better. Yeah. The other big change, I suppose, from the Trump presidency compared with the Biden presidency is simply the energy of the man. And I wonder whether that makes a political difference that continues actually for months, if not years.

Let's see if we get better. Yeah. The other big change, I suppose, from the Trump presidency compared with the Biden presidency is simply the energy of the man. And I wonder whether that makes a political difference that continues actually for months, if not years.

And they don't say that about Trump, of course.

And they don't say that about Trump, of course.

We are hanging up the hives was the message from Just Stop Oil, whose activists have often been seen wearing bright orange safety vests. It was formed in late 2021 by a splinter group which thought the climate campaign group Extinction Rebellion wasn't confrontational enough.

We are hanging up the hives was the message from Just Stop Oil, whose activists have often been seen wearing bright orange safety vests. It was formed in late 2021 by a splinter group which thought the climate campaign group Extinction Rebellion wasn't confrontational enough.

Its actions, including slow marches on motorways and throwing soup at works of art, attracted huge attention and a great deal of public anger. And Just Stop Oil says its campaign has been successful. Hayley Walsh is an activist with the group. She disrupted a West End production of The Tempest featuring Sigourney Weaver.

Its actions, including slow marches on motorways and throwing soup at works of art, attracted huge attention and a great deal of public anger. And Just Stop Oil says its campaign has been successful. Hayley Walsh is an activist with the group. She disrupted a West End production of The Tempest featuring Sigourney Weaver.

But the activities of Just Stop Oil and other direct action climate groups brought a tough response from the authorities. New laws were introduced, criminalising new forms of protest, such as locking on, chaining yourself to something and tunnelling underground. Just Stop Oil activists have received the longest sentences ever handed down for non-violent civil disobedience.

But the activities of Just Stop Oil and other direct action climate groups brought a tough response from the authorities. New laws were introduced, criminalising new forms of protest, such as locking on, chaining yourself to something and tunnelling underground. Just Stop Oil activists have received the longest sentences ever handed down for non-violent civil disobedience.

But the group says this doesn't mean its members will give up campaigning. It says it's creating a new strategy. Nothing short of a revolution is going to protect us from the coming storm, Just Stop Oil says.

But the group says this doesn't mean its members will give up campaigning. It says it's creating a new strategy. Nothing short of a revolution is going to protect us from the coming storm, Just Stop Oil says.

Give us a kind of case study, as it were, of who it was who would be potentially helped by that ability.

Give us a kind of case study, as it were, of who it was who would be potentially helped by that ability.

And that, Professor Franklin, is a much more difficult area, society-wide.

And that, Professor Franklin, is a much more difficult area, society-wide.

Are there areas... Professor Lovell-Badge, that will simply be possible, but clearly right from the beginning just will be banned legally in areas that we can think of quite easily?

Are there areas... Professor Lovell-Badge, that will simply be possible, but clearly right from the beginning just will be banned legally in areas that we can think of quite easily?