Justin Willard

You're like, what are you talking like?

No, no, no.

Like, yeah, they're still going to get this and they're going to use this anyways.

Like, so why aren't we going to maximize it as a training tool?

So I'd say we've come a pretty long way in the in the eight years I've been in pro ball.

Oh, sorry.

So even somebody like Gio Lito, right?

I think you saw a pretty good resurgence of Gio Lito last year.

And it was really understanding like his fastball effectiveness and where it needed to be to play to drive success in the rest of the arsenal.

Like that fastball, when it's up to the top upper third and it's got the carry we wanted, like it was one of the best pitches in baseball, but then it also made the rest of the arsenal that much better.

No, yeah.

Especially when you're dealing with that level of player that's had that level of success.

Sometimes it is just a small tweak, a small mechanical drill, a small feeling of, oh, like that's the difference.

And especially for somebody like Giolito, he's very internalized, very feel based and credit Bales and Holti for the consistent work that they did with him to get him kind of get him right and get that fastball really, really going.

Uh, it's just Ken tracks.

Skelly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think for me, like,

There's probably...