Justine Harmon

And the quality of the product was no longer what it was, which is, I think, common.

You know, when you get a small business startup and then it's taken over by a larger conglomerate and they grow it, they're always going to be looking how to, you know, get it cheaper and how it's just it's it's business, right?

In 1993, the same year that Victoria's Secret introduced a push-up bra called the Miracle Bra and sold 2 million units, Roy Raymond, the man who founded Victoria's Secret, the man who tried and failed to dream up another business unicorn, parked his Toyota on the Golden Gate Bridge and jumped off the ledge to his death.

He was 46 years old.

What do you think motivated Roy?

Why?

Boy, recognizing, just recognizing, again, what was missing.

He had a vision of women being beautiful.

Recognizing what was missing.

You could say the same about Les Wexner.

He was a great leader, inspired by other people's ideas and always building on them.

But Les's wealth, it also made him a target.

Gabe, it's so nice to see you.

So why did you get interested in Les Wexner?

Gabriel Sherman is a Vanity Fair writer famous for covering Fox News' Roger Ailes.

More recently, he's been looking into Wexner.

He says that Wexner's assets were insane.

So in 1986, only four years after Les bought Victoria's Secret, he met Jeffrey Epstein.

And Epstein had his eye on all that Les had.

According to Gabe, Jeffrey Epstein stepped into that breach.