Kaelin Moore

And at one point, Travis can be heard saying, I'm toast.

I'm toast.

He then goes off the rails and he offers to lead investigators to a body in St.

Louis.

But when they started driving towards the location, he changed his mind and he demanded that they take him back to jail.

They did get another DNA sample out of that interrogation, though, after Maury drank out of a soda can.

And that matched DNA on the plastic spoon and the DNA from Yvonne and Brenda's bodies.

Because remember, they had only gotten a sample that they couldn't specifically say was his.

From the house, but who in the house?

Right.

They needed to like be looking at him in the eyes as he gave them a DNA sample.

So now they had enough.

Eventually, Maury refused to say another word without a lawyer.

Yeah, that's so true that you can get someone to talk for eight hours.

Yeah.

We talked about Chris Voss, the FBI negotiator.

One thing he says during his negotiations when he's trying to get more information out of people is he just takes the last thing they said and he rephrases it as a question.

Genius.

So, oh, you think that's genius?

And then you're like, yeah, it's really smart.