Kai Ryssdal

But that's a really interesting... So you said you're worried about the United States and that $800 thing, that de minimis is the word we use.

That's a big deal for you right here in this factory.

It's a big deal.

A guy who runs a garment factory in Ho Chi Minh City that sends clothes all over the world is trying to grow and treat his workers better in the process.

But a policy change half a world away means he can't afford to air condition his factory on a 95-degree day.

But for business owners like Henry Pham and others you're going to hear from, being in Vietnam comes with a whole lot of advantages.

Earlier that day, before we went out to Henry Pham's factory, Nila and I had taken a little side trip.

We should say it's huge, right?

And there are, and we're going to go inside in a minute.

Right.

This is the Binh Thai Market, right?

Yes.

Say it right for me.

Binh Thai?

That's Andy.

She's our translator and our fixer.

Obviously, we paid her for her services.

Also, you should know that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent someone to tag along to keep an eye on us and on everyone we were talking to.

A free press is still not a thing in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, even though its economy has really opened up in the past 30 years.

There's a lot going on here.