Kai Ryssdal

And also, what's the sales pitch?

Sorry.

This is kind of weedy, but how much is it going to cost me?

Is it like a per square foot thing?

Is it a per megawatt thing?

I have to say, though, after being at the CoreSight data center in L.A.

the other day, the one in the old post office building, all these rooms kind of look the same to me.

Looking at that pipe over there, that, I don't know, what, 8, 10-inch pipe that says chilled water return, there are people who are going to hear this who are going to hear data centers, man.

They're using all the electricity.

They're using all the water.

Honestly, I'd have expected a more robust answer.

Because that's the criticism of data centers everywhere.

Sure.

They're sucking all the electricity and they're sucking all the water.

Yeah.

And of course you want to be good partners, but it's a valid critique, no?

There are some cases where data centers can, in theory, bring down utility costs.

The catch is that those theories require places with extra energy capacity.

But big companies are betting that with all this extra demand for power, energy supply is going to find a way to keep up with new technology and innovation that will eventually bring down costs.

That, of course, is not where we are right now.