Kai Wright

Well, he can't.

He's incapable.

Emmanuel, this is part of why I'm talking to you about this, because I don't fully know, but I think that it connects to something that is going on for the whole generation of Black people, this post-civil rights generation for Black people, right?

So, like, here he is, you know...

He has found this success in these mainstream white spaces.

But these mainstream white spaces that are now letting Black people into them... Yeah.

...are not... They haven't stopped being racist.

As we see at the Hollywood Bowl, right?

Like, they're still racist spaces.

Were always the joke.

And so now are you the joke or are you laughing with me?

You know, so I'm sure he's wrestling with some of that.

And like adjacent to that is like,

Just what am I doing here, period?

Like, I need access to these white spaces in order to become rich and famous in the way that I want.

You know?

But these white spaces remain racist, you know?

Like, I kind of don't want to be here at all, you know?

But I do want to be here at all.

And, like, what do I do?