Kaleb Nation

It's about getting liked. It's a way to be liked. But if women are moving off of that position, you're going to look just dumb, like silly. It's going to look weird.

It's about getting liked. It's a way to be liked. But if women are moving off of that position, you're going to look just dumb, like silly. It's going to look weird.

Very well, yeah.

Very well, yeah.

And what I saw that interview and what I saw Megyn Kelly expressing was actual disgust. So she would never go near something like that. So it's a really visceral, emotional thing. Now, Susan's mic was off, but she was having a huge reaction to what you just said. So where do you fall, Susan, in this whole lineup? Because you reacted to Megyn Kelly's comments.

And what I saw that interview and what I saw Megyn Kelly expressing was actual disgust. So she would never go near something like that. So it's a really visceral, emotional thing. Now, Susan's mic was off, but she was having a huge reaction to what you just said. So where do you fall, Susan, in this whole lineup? Because you reacted to Megyn Kelly's comments.

Oh, you're ducking. You're ducking. So how would you respond to a sneaky fucker?

Oh, you're ducking. You're ducking. So how would you respond to a sneaky fucker?

She doesn't want to answer.

She doesn't want to answer.

She doesn't want to. For some reason, I don't know why she's.

She doesn't want to. For some reason, I don't know why she's.

No, no trick. It's no trick. We're just doing an objective experiment right now, right here in real time.

No, no trick. It's no trick. We're just doing an objective experiment right now, right here in real time.

Yeah, right. They're both sneaky fuckers when it comes to us. That's the problem. So this category has wide application is what I'm saying.

Yeah, right. They're both sneaky fuckers when it comes to us. That's the problem. So this category has wide application is what I'm saying.

But he said something really interesting. Because... She doesn't have to be a sneaky fucker. She's dealing with males. All she has to say is, I'd like to get in, please. But Caleb said she must have a confidence problem, which I think is exactly correct. She doesn't believe that she'd be picked. All she has to do is raise her hand and the man will be like, come on, let's go.

But he said something really interesting. Because... She doesn't have to be a sneaky fucker. She's dealing with males. All she has to say is, I'd like to get in, please. But Caleb said she must have a confidence problem, which I think is exactly correct. She doesn't believe that she'd be picked. All she has to do is raise her hand and the man will be like, come on, let's go.

Yeah. And the current ethos wants to say that's all socially created. It's toxic masculinity. No, no, no, no. It's in all history, all cultures, all through time. And really, from my perspective,

Yeah. And the current ethos wants to say that's all socially created. It's toxic masculinity. No, no, no, no. It's in all history, all cultures, all through time. And really, from my perspective,