Kaleb Nation
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But they were out convincing people that you couldn't do that and that you needed to get vaccinated so that you wouldn't transmit it, including young people. When we knew from around the world that young people were not likely to get the disease.
But they were out convincing people that you couldn't do that and that you needed to get vaccinated so that you wouldn't transmit it, including young people. When we knew from around the world that young people were not likely to get the disease.
And if they did get the disease, it was, I saw one part of the study said 99.99% non-fatal, unless you had some other comorbidity or some health problem to begin with. And yet we were making all of our kids get these vaccines down to five years of age and so forth. And they were shaming us spending $900 million plus of taxpayer dollars to tell people, you need to get out of here.
And if they did get the disease, it was, I saw one part of the study said 99.99% non-fatal, unless you had some other comorbidity or some health problem to begin with. And yet we were making all of our kids get these vaccines down to five years of age and so forth. And they were shaming us spending $900 million plus of taxpayer dollars to tell people, you need to get out of here.
You need to do this. You need to get the vaccine because then you can go around your friends. You can go back to school. You can party. You don't need to wear your masks and all of this. And it was never based on science. And these were the people that kept fussing at conservatives saying, you got to follow the science. You got to follow the science. Well, they were just making it up as they went.
You need to do this. You need to get the vaccine because then you can go around your friends. You can go back to school. You can party. You don't need to wear your masks and all of this. And it was never based on science. And these were the people that kept fussing at conservatives saying, you got to follow the science. You got to follow the science. Well, they were just making it up as they went.
And it was really unsettling. And of course, we also did a lot of work before they set up a special committee. We did a lot of work on the COVID origins. And that was another situation where they, you know, didn't tell us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and tried to blame it on an animal escape.
And it was really unsettling. And of course, we also did a lot of work before they set up a special committee. We did a lot of work on the COVID origins. And that was another situation where they, you know, didn't tell us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and tried to blame it on an animal escape.
And particularly, EcoHealth Alliance was just outrageous, and that company has since been debarred from doing NIH studies. But NIH didn't do a good job of monitoring what their agents were doing or who they were subcontracting with and whether or not they were getting the data they were paying American taxpayer dollars to get.
And particularly, EcoHealth Alliance was just outrageous, and that company has since been debarred from doing NIH studies. But NIH didn't do a good job of monitoring what their agents were doing or who they were subcontracting with and whether or not they were getting the data they were paying American taxpayer dollars to get.
Well, I think we have to learn some lessons there. One of those is that we need to probably reform things going on at NIH. It's a great organization. It does a lot of great research. But particularly at NIAID, we saw that in depositions with Dr. Fauci and testimony that he gave, he indicated, actually, I'm going to read it if you don't mind. I asked him about Wuhan.
Well, I think we have to learn some lessons there. One of those is that we need to probably reform things going on at NIH. It's a great organization. It does a lot of great research. But particularly at NIAID, we saw that in depositions with Dr. Fauci and testimony that he gave, he indicated, actually, I'm going to read it if you don't mind. I asked him about Wuhan.
What can you tell us about that? What did you know about Wuhan Institute of Virology? And he said, I can tell you that my knowledge of Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Wuhan University was so vague that I don't believe at the time that even though there was an email from Greg that said that there are these things we're doing, I didn't make that connection.
What can you tell us about that? What did you know about Wuhan Institute of Virology? And he said, I can tell you that my knowledge of Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Wuhan University was so vague that I don't believe at the time that even though there was an email from Greg that said that there are these things we're doing, I didn't make that connection.
So I didn't even know there was a Wuhan Institute of Virology. And I called it Wuhan University. He may have said in Wuhan Institute of Virology during the call, but I believe that just goes to show how little I knew about what was going on in Wuhan.
So I didn't even know there was a Wuhan Institute of Virology. And I called it Wuhan University. He may have said in Wuhan Institute of Virology during the call, but I believe that just goes to show how little I knew about what was going on in Wuhan.
This is the head of NIAID, our National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who gave the money to do the research with EcoHealth Alliance, who then gave us a subcontract to Wuhan Institute of Virology. And our head guy doesn't even know what the institution is. And that tells me we need more people watching.
This is the head of NIAID, our National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who gave the money to do the research with EcoHealth Alliance, who then gave us a subcontract to Wuhan Institute of Virology. And our head guy doesn't even know what the institution is. And that tells me we need more people watching.
And when I say more people, I don't mean that we need to be hiring necessarily more people. But maybe we need to break up NIAID into two or three parts. And we need to do some reforms at NIH to make sure if we're spending taxpayer dollars on it, you know whether or not something's going on. And in this case, as you know, they recommended and they gave humanized mice to the Chinese. So...
And when I say more people, I don't mean that we need to be hiring necessarily more people. But maybe we need to break up NIAID into two or three parts. And we need to do some reforms at NIH to make sure if we're spending taxpayer dollars on it, you know whether or not something's going on. And in this case, as you know, they recommended and they gave humanized mice to the Chinese. So...