Kaleb Nation

And Fauci would later say in one of our depositions that, well, we didn't pay for anything related to gain of function or what we would call gain of function where it's dangerous pathogen. But maybe the Chinese were doing something with it. And that's a paraphrasing. But he said that. Yeah. And that's what I have always believed is that we gave them all the tools.

And Fauci would later say in one of our depositions that, well, we didn't pay for anything related to gain of function or what we would call gain of function where it's dangerous pathogen. But maybe the Chinese were doing something with it. And that's a paraphrasing. But he said that. Yeah. And that's what I have always believed is that we gave them all the tools.

to go and start playing around with things. And I believe it was a lab leak. I believe they inadvertently let this stuff get out. And that's why so many of the doctors there died. And the animal theory might've made sense in early 2020, but by late 2020, there was no

to go and start playing around with things. And I believe it was a lab leak. I believe they inadvertently let this stuff get out. And that's why so many of the doctors there died. And the animal theory might've made sense in early 2020, but by late 2020, there was no

indication that you would see normally in an animal uh yeah transmission where there was no evidence of animal transmission but they still insist this very day they insisted well maybe something happened it wasn't us and that really wasn't likely to be a lab leak even fauci still maintains that based on the genetics it didn't really look like a lab leak but

indication that you would see normally in an animal uh yeah transmission where there was no evidence of animal transmission but they still insist this very day they insisted well maybe something happened it wasn't us and that really wasn't likely to be a lab leak even fauci still maintains that based on the genetics it didn't really look like a lab leak but

but he doesn't know what was happening in a level two lab. And as you know, it should have been level three, higher level of security. And they were doing all this in level two. And he wasn't paying attention to what was going on with the grantee or the sub-grantee, but he was the head of the agency. What's the point in having the head of an agency who's been there for 30 some years

but he doesn't know what was happening in a level two lab. And as you know, it should have been level three, higher level of security. And they were doing all this in level two. And he wasn't paying attention to what was going on with the grantee or the sub-grantee, but he was the head of the agency. What's the point in having the head of an agency who's been there for 30 some years

If you're not got an expert who's paying attention to everything that's happening in his department, maybe not day to day, but certainly over a course of years, he ought to have known what the Wuhan Institute of Virology was before a deadly virus breaks out.

If you're not got an expert who's paying attention to everything that's happening in his department, maybe not day to day, but certainly over a course of years, he ought to have known what the Wuhan Institute of Virology was before a deadly virus breaks out.

I'm not sure that I would make that statement just because I haven't I haven't studied gross negligence recently enough. I've been in Congress too long. But I would submit to you that I do believe that EcoHealth Alliance was grossly negligent. They were late in turning in their reports to the NIH.

I'm not sure that I would make that statement just because I haven't I haven't studied gross negligence recently enough. I've been in Congress too long. But I would submit to you that I do believe that EcoHealth Alliance was grossly negligent. They were late in turning in their reports to the NIH.

They did not get the information that they paid for with our taxpayer dollars from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And they weren't paying close attention to what they were doing. And in fairness, it should have been, in my opinion, it should have been in a level three lab and somebody

They did not get the information that they paid for with our taxpayer dollars from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And they weren't paying close attention to what they were doing. And in fairness, it should have been, in my opinion, it should have been in a level three lab and somebody

whether it was the government or EcoHealth Alliance, one of those organizations should have insisted that they upgrade when you're dealing with a virus that is a respiratory virus and has, if anything happens, has a high likelihood of causing significant amount of disease, if not death, should have been in the level three lab instead of level two.

whether it was the government or EcoHealth Alliance, one of those organizations should have insisted that they upgrade when you're dealing with a virus that is a respiratory virus and has, if anything happens, has a high likelihood of causing significant amount of disease, if not death, should have been in the level three lab instead of level two.

I would say roughly that yes, I would think that at least EcoHealth was grossly negligent and perhaps NIH was too.

I would say roughly that yes, I would think that at least EcoHealth was grossly negligent and perhaps NIH was too.

Yeah. And we actually have, again, this is my opinion, but I had witnesses under oath that I was examining. And we had a whistleblower who gave us information from EcoHealth Alliance. Now, remember, they were almost two years late in turning their report in that was due in September of 2019.

Yeah. And we actually have, again, this is my opinion, but I had witnesses under oath that I was examining. And we had a whistleblower who gave us information from EcoHealth Alliance. Now, remember, they were almost two years late in turning their report in that was due in September of 2019.