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KallMeKris

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Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

casting Native Americans as heroes resisting capitalist oppression.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the most popular, the Son de Groban Baron, I butchered that, I'm sorry, sold over 9 million tickets in a nation of 17 million people.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

That's pretty popular.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So this subculture of Indian hobbyist clubs flourished across the GDR, with an estimated 40,000 members in hundreds of clubs.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the first Dresden Indian and cowboy club, Manitou, one of the oldest, was based in Egbert and Cornelia's own city, with its members building a mock frontier settlement called Stetson City in the woods outside Dresden.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

These people were, they were LARPing American Western culture.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

Like, funny to think about.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And the Stasi monitored these clubs so obsessively that their declassified files on the hobbyists reportedly filled an entire room from floor to ceiling.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So for East Germans, the American West represented everything the GDR was not.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

Freedom, vastness, and the romance of just open space.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And growing up behind a wall, you learned what a horizon looked like from photographs and films and novels set in a country you were forbidden to visit.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So after reunification, actually going there wasn't just a vacation, it was the fulfillment of something that had been deferred for an entire generation.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

and Egbert had talked about the trip with colleagues at work, and he was excited in the particular way that planners get excited.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

He had thought about it very carefully, built out a schedule, and was looking forward to executing it.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So they flew into Los Angeles on July 8th, 1996, and the return flight to Dresden was booked for July 27th, 1996.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

19 days to cover a lot of ground.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

The itinerary they had put together was ambitious, but not unreasonably so for a family accustomed to European travel, where distances between major landmarks tend to be shorter and the infrastructure between them is a lot denser.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So they plan to spend time in San Clement, a coastal town about an hour south of Los Angeles before heading east to Las Vegas.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

And then from Las Vegas, the plan was to loop back west through Death Valley and then north through Yosemite National Park before returning to LA in time for their flight.

Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder
Ep. 112 | The Death Valley Germans

So on paper,