Kamala Harris

because I was senator at the time.

And again, height of COVID.

Then the vans, the press vans were parked out front and we would just want to go for a walk.

Remember during COVID, everyone just wanted to get some fresh air.

They must have thought we couldn't see them.

They were like an unmarked vans.

So from time to time, I just walked up to them and say, look, we're going to get some coffee.

Can I bring you anything?

We'll be right back.

Right.

The day I actually got the call from Joe Biden asking me to run with him was the same day earlier where one of my girlfriends has a house in Virginia and it was the end of summer and she had all these beautiful end of summer tomatoes.

I like to cook.

She brought me this big box of tomatoes and I was going to make a bunch of marinara and freeze it.

Then I get the call from him.

I said, yes, of course.

And I don't know, it felt like within seconds.

A parade of people walk into our apartment with a parade of binders, sit down.

Everyone's in masks to tell us, OK, this is what the campaign is going to be.

And because I hate to waste food, every one of them walked out with me handing them tomatoes as they left.

Well, having been in the position of both being the interviewer and the interviewee, it really, as much as anything, comes down to chemistry.