Kane Durie

They're not thinking about cleaning that rut.

They're not thinking about who's running down their channel.

They're backing themselves to scrum first, then they'll get there.

And that sounds simple in theory, but actually having the confidence in your back defenders that if worse comes worse, it's a quick hock and out, they'll survive.

But their whole mindset is scrum first, like scrum at all costs first, because they know

If they can fold a team back over on their own ball or keep it in and milk a penalty on their ball, it's just such a weapon.

You just piggyback yourself down the field.

And then I think their nines.

Their nines make a big effort to call when the opposition half is putting in or they're putting in to make sure that they know when the trigger's coming.

And they'll train that.

They'll just train it all week.

So even though you hear it,

You haven't trained it all week, so you hear one of their halfbacks go, or whatever their word is, as they're putting the ball in, you're still reacting to someone else that you haven't trained with all week, and you'll just always be second.

But I still think it's those loosies.

Those loosies love a scrum like a front rower.

It's a big part.

I'll tell you what, they are not looking for anything else other than the penalty at scrum time.

I think another one is Caleb Woodley.

I really liked him at open side.

He was just so solid defensively.