Karen Hao

from more fossil fuel-based options to more electric options.

And we don't have that conversation when it comes to AI.

So this idea of AI is going to change everything is actually, you know, transportation is also going to change everything.

Yes, but which modes of transportation do we actually want to invest in and do we actually want to use?

And which ones are targeted at fixing the problems that we need?

You know, we never say everyone should get a rocket and use that rocket for everything.

You should use that rocket to commute

from London to Manchester, and that would be absolutely destructive to our planet.

And it wouldn't actually even be very time efficient because it would take so long to load up the rocket for a relatively short commute.

And so in the same way, we need to be very targeted about how we're designing our AI systems, what kind of specialized systems we want to develop, what kind of political economy are we enabling when we vote for particular AI technologies,

And ultimately, what kind of future do we want to live in?

I mean, that's up to us.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And I would recommend my favorite piece of writing about AI that has come out recently is actually from Pope Leo XIV with his encyclical that just came out this week.

They use much AI in the Vatican.

They actually have been studying and trying to develop a position on AI for, I think, at least several years, if not up to a decade at this point.

Yeah.

So they're actually really sophisticated on these issues.

Exactly.

No, it's the most fascinating thing.