Karen Hao

Exactly.

Exactly.

But as also history reminds us, empires fall when we all rally together and engage in collective action.

Absolutely.

I mean, we've done it before.

You know, this is why the empire analogy is...

So useful.

It's not just about understanding and recognizing what these entities actually are and all of their levers of power and all of the ways that they've developed deep control over even the most fundamental information sources in society.

It is also about how we then

transition away from the age of empire to democracy.

I mean, we did it before when there wasn't democracy, you know, democracy hadn't been figured out at scale.

We now have an advantage where we know what it's like to have governance structures that actually allow the participation of everyone.

And so with that clear, concrete example, that lived experience, I think we have a much better shot than before.

And they were already successful in the past.

So much of what's happening today in the AI industry is extremely inhumane.

No, it's not.

This is a prediction that you're making, right?

And do you know what the common feature of all of them is?

They profit enormously off of this myth.

You know, I have all these internal documents showing that they're purposely trying to create that feeling within the public so that they can extract and exploit and extract and exploit.