Karen Kelly

There's definitely a learning curve, 100%.

And there's also...

I guess you have to make sure that what we're using them for, who we're using them for, and you're not widening the gap.

So you have to make sure.

So the likes of remote monitoring,

We had a lot of patients don't have a mobile phone.

So, you know, who are you using it for?

It's the best companies and the best tech, I think, are the ones that actually involve the user from the design process.

So they bring in the user, they bring in the patient or they bring in the health care worker.

And they have them involved from the very beginning, from the design process.

And I think that's when you get more use of it, because then people know how it works from the start and how it's going to affect people.

But there's definitely still a divide in design.

in getting the the the right equipment into the right place into the right hands we we have the tools we have the equipment but but i suppose implementing it into into practice because it takes time so so you need time you need people and you need money to implement it it's and then it's the longer term goal of what it actually does

I think we're definitely getting there.

I don't know if you know John Sheehan, but John Sheehan in Blackrock Clinic is doing amazing stuff with mobile medical diagnostics.

And he's so he's in radiology, but he's brought out in the humanarium in the RCSI and they have

He's done a lecture there recently about the heart outside the hospital.

And he talks a lot about AI tools and about digital tech.

And it's not all about AI.

It's about how do we augment.