Karen Kilgariff

Yes, I want to be there.

Yes, I want to be there.

It's kind of old for that time, right? Like, it's not now, obviously, but for back then, like, that's an old lady, legitimately.

It's kind of old for that time, right? Like, it's not now, obviously, but for back then, like, that's an old lady, legitimately.

I mean, what resilience.

I mean, what resilience.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It seems like agency was very important to her and she was able to fucking create a life around it. It's pretty amazing.

It seems like agency was very important to her and she was able to fucking create a life around it. It's pretty amazing.

Great job. Thank you for telling that story. Thank you for listening actively. We've done it again. We did it again. Thank you guys for listening to this quote short episode, but like seriously. It's never short. It's never short. We are never brief. That's our promise to you. That's right. We promise to never shut the fuck up. Stay sexy. And don't get murdered. Goodbye.

Great job. Thank you for telling that story. Thank you for listening actively. We've done it again. We did it again. Thank you guys for listening to this quote short episode, but like seriously. It's never short. It's never short. We are never brief. That's our promise to you. That's right. We promise to never shut the fuck up. Stay sexy. And don't get murdered. Goodbye.

Elvis, do you want a cookie?

Elvis, do you want a cookie?

Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

Our researchers are Maren McClashen and Allie Elkin.

Our researchers are Maren McClashen and Allie Elkin.