Karen Kilgariff

I can't remember. People talk to me about these cases that we talk about on here and I have almost no memory of talking about them. I know. I have to re-listen to episodes.

I can't remember. People talk to me about these cases that we talk about on here and I have almost no memory of talking about them. I know. I have to re-listen to episodes.

It was maybe your first. No, not your first because your first was Martha Moxley, right?

It was maybe your first. No, not your first because your first was Martha Moxley, right?

Oh, okay. It was an early one that was a little more obscure. And right, I saw it and I went, that's so good. And I'm like, the reason you think that is because George R.R. Martin did it. What if you just did it and then did it better? And then said, up your game, girl. Yeah. That's right. Get it together. It's a contest within a podcast.

Oh, okay. It was an early one that was a little more obscure. And right, I saw it and I went, that's so good. And I'm like, the reason you think that is because George R.R. Martin did it. What if you just did it and then did it better? And then said, up your game, girl. Yeah. That's right. Get it together. It's a contest within a podcast.

What is... Oh, God. I'm such a dick. No, I think it's very brave of you to admit this. I re-listen to episodes a lot. Because it's a really... It's fun to do... It's, I don't know. It's fun to do. It is. It is. And it's like, oh shit.

What is... Oh, God. I'm such a dick. No, I think it's very brave of you to admit this. I re-listen to episodes a lot. Because it's a really... It's fun to do... It's, I don't know. It's fun to do. It is. It is. And it's like, oh shit.

Oh, that was good. That was actually good. Sometimes we leave this apartment and I'm like, we shouldn't, we shouldn't do this anymore. Wait, what? Wait, sorry, what? Please tell me that's not true. Any more housekeeping? That is it for me.

Oh, that was good. That was actually good. Sometimes we leave this apartment and I'm like, we shouldn't, we shouldn't do this anymore. Wait, what? Wait, sorry, what? Please tell me that's not true. Any more housekeeping? That is it for me.

It's timeless. I haven't because there's so many other like true crime documentaries out right now. I feel like my list has gotten insanely long.

It's timeless. I haven't because there's so many other like true crime documentaries out right now. I feel like my list has gotten insanely long.

I feel bad about all of it. Like, this is a story that is so – I was talking to somebody this morning where I was just like, the idea that there are so many risky people in this child's life. Yeah. And the fact that there are so many potential people.

I feel bad about all of it. Like, this is a story that is so – I was talking to somebody this morning where I was just like, the idea that there are so many risky people in this child's life. Yeah. And the fact that there are so many potential people.

Is so horrible.

Is so horrible.

Just so horrible. And they, you know, like child pageants, we don't even have to get into it.

Just so horrible. And they, you know, like child pageants, we don't even have to get into it.

Yeah. And also it's just very strange. It's like a cold case. It feels like there should be a way to get in there and do something about how this cold case that just everybody wants answers to.

Yeah. And also it's just very strange. It's like a cold case. It feels like there should be a way to get in there and do something about how this cold case that just everybody wants answers to.