Karen Kilgariff

And it's your friend Millie Ducerco from I Saw What You Did. Yeah. And the producer of that podcast, Casey O'Brien, who we're now hosting.

And it's your friend Millie Ducerco from I Saw What You Did. Yeah. And the producer of that podcast, Casey O'Brien, who we're now hosting.

One of the greatest. I just remembered recording that episode and it was just a delight. Then also over on Wicked Words, Kate Winkler Dawson's talking to author Michael Arntfield about his book, Monster City, Murder, Music, and Mayhem in Nashville's Dark Age. Ew. I'm going to read that.

One of the greatest. I just remembered recording that episode and it was just a delight. Then also over on Wicked Words, Kate Winkler Dawson's talking to author Michael Arntfield about his book, Monster City, Murder, Music, and Mayhem in Nashville's Dark Age. Ew. I'm going to read that.

We're so lucky to get to work with her.

We're so lucky to get to work with her.

Yeah. And you must read it. Yeah. Also, we have some bittersweet news. We are saying goodbye to the Lady to Lady podcast, Brandy, Babs, and Tess. We want to thank you for all your great work over the years. You'll always be a part of the Exactly Right family.

Yeah. And you must read it. Yeah. Also, we have some bittersweet news. We are saying goodbye to the Lady to Lady podcast, Brandy, Babs, and Tess. We want to thank you for all your great work over the years. You'll always be a part of the Exactly Right family.

Okay, so today I'm going to tell you about a domestic violence case from the 70s that carries a massive legacy and has changed our perception of spousal abuse. Wow. And just a listener note, this story deals with very severe domestic abuse and suicidal ideation. At the time, spousal abuse was treated as a private matter between a husband and a wife. Spock.

Okay, so today I'm going to tell you about a domestic violence case from the 70s that carries a massive legacy and has changed our perception of spousal abuse. Wow. And just a listener note, this story deals with very severe domestic abuse and suicidal ideation. At the time, spousal abuse was treated as a private matter between a husband and a wife. Spock.

At best, and then at worst, it was dismissed, ignored, or joked about. In fact, Ms. Magazine, which at the time was one of the few outlets that was actually pushing back at this kind of language and energy, regularly asked readers to send in sexist ads that they found in newspapers and magazines. No way. Uh-huh.

At best, and then at worst, it was dismissed, ignored, or joked about. In fact, Ms. Magazine, which at the time was one of the few outlets that was actually pushing back at this kind of language and energy, regularly asked readers to send in sexist ads that they found in newspapers and magazines. No way. Uh-huh.

And in 1973, someone sent in a print advertisement for a bowling alley in Michigan that read in big, bold lettering, have some fun, beat your wife tonight. Jesus. And right now, if you listen closely, you can hear Bill Maher scrambling to defend this comedy and how hilarious it is. What a joke. What a top-tier joke. Well, this was America in the 70s. Yeah.

And in 1973, someone sent in a print advertisement for a bowling alley in Michigan that read in big, bold lettering, have some fun, beat your wife tonight. Jesus. And right now, if you listen closely, you can hear Bill Maher scrambling to defend this comedy and how hilarious it is. What a joke. What a top-tier joke. Well, this was America in the 70s. Yeah.

And what's really weird that sometimes this happens on the show, and it's kind of what I'm in it for, if I'm going to be honest. Yeah. is when I was there for a cultural moment. I was 14 years old. The reason I know this case is because of a made for TV movie that came out when I was 14. So like a handful of years after it happened. No way. And you remember it? Oh, like it was yesterday.

And what's really weird that sometimes this happens on the show, and it's kind of what I'm in it for, if I'm going to be honest. Yeah. is when I was there for a cultural moment. I was 14 years old. The reason I know this case is because of a made for TV movie that came out when I was 14. So like a handful of years after it happened. No way. And you remember it? Oh, like it was yesterday.

And I remember not only watching it

And I remember not only watching it

and experiencing it but then what happened after it wow and it was one of those things that i think these days a lot of it had it had the natural almost viral effect but it was 1984 right which so that never happened yeah and it was that kind of thing where suddenly people were seeing and talking about this issue in a completely different way because i feel like like with so many of these things

and experiencing it but then what happened after it wow and it was one of those things that i think these days a lot of it had it had the natural almost viral effect but it was 1984 right which so that never happened yeah and it was that kind of thing where suddenly people were seeing and talking about this issue in a completely different way because i feel like like with so many of these things