Karen Maschke

Karen, what are some of the concerns, like the real concerns with biohacking?

It's interesting.

I don't know.

I can understand why a young person would be

invested in a rave review of a Chinese peptide or something like that.

But what is it about like adults that are making them susceptible to this?

What is driving people to reconsider what they think is safe?

One of the things I've been thinking about though, biohacking is a term I've heard for a long time and the trends have changed, you know, from like, you know, eating a lot of protein and maybe getting really into Brazilian jujitsu or applying the lessons of the four hour body, which is a book written by Tim Ferriss, I believe in 2010, that was all about like using, you know, basically like almost like the minimum effort to get like maximum result.

But that to me felt like it was very much about efficiency.

I wonder though, what do you think is undergirding these trends now?

Like what's the desire from Silicon Valley right now?

I mean, as I imagine it, a chip you get implanted in your body at a dance party, I could see that going left.

But yeah, go ahead.

Well, it makes me think about something else that I've seen in the ether recently.

The Cut recently put out an article around friction maxing.

This is an essay written by Catherine J. Zermorton, who's been on the show before a couple of times.

She's phenomenal.

But she described friction maxing, her term, it's kind of like foregoing the convenience of tech.

to actually engage with life.

Like for example, like not using chat GPT to make your grocery list or not sharing your location with your family or requiring that your family share their location with you so that you actually have to go, hey, where are you?