Karen Moscow

And so, therefore, is China a little bit late to the party here, not only adopting a Western-made piece of tech here, an open-source one, but also one that had been admittedly already pushed back by U.S.

institutions for fear that it would go rogue?

I think that's right.

I think Steinberger was quite vocal about some of the risks here.

I think he was more focused on trying to prove that Gentic AI can be useful and that it can be easily accessible if you're able to tap into it through WhatsApp, for example.

So I think he was more focused on that side of it.

He was kind of deprecating about what the service could actually be used for.

But now we're seeing it being taken up in a number of different places, certainly in the U.S.

and Europe also.

and in Asia with this China explosion of interest.

I think the Chinese tech companies have been very quick to pick it up and see how they can adopt it for their own market, too.

And I think with those advances, you've seen these organizations take it on, and some of these risks are coming to the fore.

I think you're exactly right, though.

Cybersecurity experts have been quite worried about agentic AI in general and OpenClaw specifically.

Max Claw being reliant.

I mean, so many of them taking on the news.

Peter Elstrom, great to have the breakdown.

Thank you.

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