Karen Sweeney

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Of course.

You know, can you imagine one of your kids heading off?

Oh, stop.

Yeah.

No, look, he's done a lot of different things.

And, you know, he's done the training and, you know, they've got a plan.

You know, they know that if they don't get up to the top of the mountain by two o'clock in the afternoon, they turn around, they have a meeting beforehand.

Everybody agrees this is the time they're going to turn around and come down.

And, you know, because when you do get up into high altitude and the oxygen is low, you can make decisions that are, you know, you're not making good decisions.

So that's decided before they go, they write it on their arm and say, that's the time, that's my time that I'm coming back down.

So they'll turn around then and that's it, they'll come back down.

And at the end of the day, it's just about, you know, getting home safely.

Oh, right.

So this is the problem, right?

When the kids were small, right, I always had a fascination about Everest myself.

Yeah, I've always had a fascination.

Even in our loo downstairs, I've got the front page of the English Chronicle that kind of is celebrating Tenzing Norgay and Sir Edmund Hillary getting up to Everest the first time.

Yeah, but yeah, this was... I put that up there years and years and years ago.

And I don't know whether Adam's been sitting on the loo looking at that all these years.