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Karen Torgaly

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
284 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And at that time, in a big part of Eastern Europe, there are lots of pogroms, persecution against the Jewish people, and especially in their little town of Bielostok.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Businesses were being burned, people were being murdered, and there was no support from the army or the police.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They just were on their own to defend themselves.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So when he was born, they did not even go out and register his birth because it was too dangerous.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

One of the stories Sabin remembered as a five-year-old was he had been born with an eye condition that caused him not to have sight in one of his eyes, and he was walking home with a friend of his from school, and some Catholic children who had just gotten out of their church started taunting them and calling them names, and then they began to throw rocks at them.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And one very sharp rock hit Sabin a quarter of an inch from his eye that he still had vision in and bled quite a lot.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

But he said if it had been any closer, if it had hit his eye, he probably would have been blinded.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So that was a very traumatic experience for him.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Part of their family immigrated in 1910, but Sabin's family couldn't go yet because the mom's mother was very ill and she couldn't travel, and they didn't want to leave her to die by herself.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So they started their process in around 1918 when Sabin was 13, and it took them 18 months.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

to get to the United States.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

But when they got there, there were other family members who welcomed them into the new country.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And Sabin, he remembered seeing the Statue of Liberty.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And by then, he was 14 and didn't speak English.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

The family, the mom and dad, were both weavers and textile workers in Bialystok.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And fortunately for them, there was a city nearby, Patterson, New Jersey, that was just near New York City, where they had lots of jobs for textile workers.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So they were able to get work right away.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And Sabin applied to go to school in Patterson High School.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They couldn't read his transfer records at all because they were in a foreign language.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So they just asked him, what would you do if you were us?