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Karen Torgaly

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
284 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Sometimes it was giving them insect repellent, spraying the heck out of everything with EDT, and sometimes he would try to make a rudimentary vaccine against them.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And at that time, there was a new system where they could do research in a tent that was put close to the front lines.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

It wasn't ideal.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They didn't have all the equipment they needed.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

It was...

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

horrible conditions.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

It was super hot and miserable, but that's where he wanted to be and chose to be.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Sabin was seven years older than Jonas Salk and had many different experiences that made him a better virologist than Salk.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

By that time, Albert Sabin had five years of research that he did at the Rockefeller Institute in New York, which was a very elite group of scientists.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Jonas Salk at that time was not that long out of his residency.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

But he had been commissioned to look into confirming that there were three strains of poliovirus that caused disease in humans.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

It was kind of like the ditch digging of virus research because it was just a lot of reproducing the disease in monkeys and seeing which of the 196 strains actually did cause disease.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

It just was a long process.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

But in the process, they were at a lot of meetings together.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They would sit up long into the night talking about their ideas and things that they would do to possibly make a vaccine for polio and how they would do it.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

and Sabin became a mentor to Salk, and they got along pretty well by all reports.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

That began to change when Salk had decided, because he had made a vaccine during the war in Michigan with a guy named Tommy Francis,

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

for influenza.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And it was a killed virus vaccine, meaning that the virus was inactivated completely to the point where they didn't think it was possible for a person who got the vaccine with the viruses in it could get sick from them because they were dead.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And that's the type of vaccine he wanted to make.