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Karl Thiel

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144 total appearances

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Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

And that is basically a valuation argument.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

So this is not usually where we're coming from for rule breakers, but I think it's a reasonably compelling case.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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in which you have a company that's guided for earnings per share in the $6.50 range there, a little bit to either side of that.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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Revenue is going to be around $47 billion this year.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

That gives them a P.E.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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multiple of less than seven.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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I think that number alone tells you that there's some trouble at this company.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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But I think that trouble is pretty well recognized at this point.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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They have one of the worst patent cliffs in the industry.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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A patent cliff is when a drug that you've been selling for a very high margin, lots and lots of money, suddenly goes off patent, generic competition comes in, and your market share tanks, and pricing pressure goes way up.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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That's going to happen with Eliquis.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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That's going to happen in the 2028 range with Opdivo.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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This is a company where you're going to see both profits and revenue drop for a period of years.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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But I think that is more than priced in at this point.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

And the company is paying a dividend in the 5.6% yield range.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

And it's a dividend that I think you can count on.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

They have a 93-year history of paying a dividend.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
3 Broken Breakers Worth Buying

93 consecutive years.

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing
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There's no reason they're going to stop doing that.