Karl Urban

And you said, Manoge, you said, you know, like your Taika Waititi's and to a lesser extent, Carl Urban.

Oh my God.

And I thought, no, but I thought, no, no, fair enough.

Okay, you know, I don't put myself out there as much like Taika did.

And I'm not married a pop star.

You know, I don't have that sexually transmitted fame, which is bloody hard to get rid of once you catch.

Yeah, totally, mate.

You know?

Totally.

But anyway, then you all went on to compile your lists and completely left me off the list.

Listen, I was looking at actors like Sam Neill and Bruno Lawrence, and it was pretty clear to me that the New Zealand industry, as amazing as it is and as awesome as it is at telling our stories, if you want a career of some serious longevity, you have to look overseas.

And I always just wanted to work with the...

The best in the business globally.

And so from a very early point, I had my target set over there.

Wellington originally, yeah.

What part of Welly?

Well, all over, actually.

We moved around.

Mount Vic, Oriental Bay, Brooklyn.

Yeah, right.