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literally pilfering a lot of Apple engineers.

I think 40 of them in the last month or so, according to Bloomberg here.

So I think it's going to be a pretty legitimate hardware device, right?

Because I think that's the big thing is if they're pilfering Apple engineers, and a lot of them

probably all who have worked with for or really you know like joanie ive then it's a pretty significant thing if they can start doing that right especially like because apple's definitely known for hardware um it's less so software but like to have that they're like it's pretty serious of what they're planning to do there so i thought that was an interesting tidbit um to see what comes out of that

I do feel it's, it just kind of takes away the surprise, because I remember, you know, like, when all these different things come out, there was always leaks, but the leaks were maybe, like,

a couple weeks before, maybe a month before now it's like, is it a year before the leak and so on just too many touch points in the supply chain from, you know, wherever they're creating this to, you know, who's handling this, who's designing it, you know, leaks like that.

And, um, I remember way back in the day, uh, I don't know if you, you follow John Gruber.

Is that his name?

Daring Fireball.

He was always the Apple leaker.

What was the next thing that's coming out?

Big Apple enthusiast.

So, yeah, I just thought I'd be like, I'm hoping that they can keep this a secret for as long as possible.

And then, yeah, kind of hopefully get surprised by whatever comes out of it.

Right.