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And then he had Kai Dickens on more recently.

And then he had Kai Dickens on more recently.

So, meaning that there have been people forever who have wanted to believe in counter-narratives or believe that you're being lied to. And just right now, that's ascendant? Like, that energy is ascendant?

So, meaning that there have been people forever who have wanted to believe in counter-narratives or believe that you're being lied to. And just right now, that's ascendant? Like, that energy is ascendant?

So, meaning that there have been people forever who have wanted to believe in counter-narratives or believe that you're being lied to. And just right now, that's ascendant? Like, that energy is ascendant?

Yeah, they do meet in this place where, you know, mystical ideas, you know, intuition, anything that mainstream science or the experts don't believe is ascendant. Now, you are a person who is a science journalist who does want to align yourself with what the mainstream scientific institution finds to be true. So what do you make of a moment like this?

Yeah, they do meet in this place where, you know, mystical ideas, you know, intuition, anything that mainstream science or the experts don't believe is ascendant. Now, you are a person who is a science journalist who does want to align yourself with what the mainstream scientific institution finds to be true. So what do you make of a moment like this?

Yeah, they do meet in this place where, you know, mystical ideas, you know, intuition, anything that mainstream science or the experts don't believe is ascendant. Now, you are a person who is a science journalist who does want to align yourself with what the mainstream scientific institution finds to be true. So what do you make of a moment like this?

Dan, you have thoroughly explained this phenomenon to me. Thank you so much.

Dan, you have thoroughly explained this phenomenon to me. Thank you so much.

Dan, you have thoroughly explained this phenomenon to me. Thank you so much.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West and Kevin Townsend. It was edited by Claudina Bade, engineered by Erica Wong, and fact-checked by Sarah Kralewski. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West and Kevin Townsend. It was edited by Claudina Bade, engineered by Erica Wong, and fact-checked by Sarah Kralewski. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West and Kevin Townsend. It was edited by Claudina Bade, engineered by Erica Wong, and fact-checked by Sarah Kralewski. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor. I'm Hannah Rosen. Thank you for listening.

I'm Carla Lally Music, Cookbook-Author and Snack-Enthusiast. Do you have a sweet tooth? Tune in to Sweets Unwrapped, a new podcast from Ferrero and Atlantic Rethink, the Atlantic's creative marketing studio, where I dive into the stories behind America's favorite treats.

I'm Carla Lally Music, Cookbook-Author and Snack-Enthusiast. Do you have a sweet tooth? Tune in to Sweets Unwrapped, a new podcast from Ferrero and Atlantic Rethink, the Atlantic's creative marketing studio, where I dive into the stories behind America's favorite treats.

I'm Carla Lally Music, Cookbook-Author and Snack-Enthusiast. Do you have a sweet tooth? Tune in to Sweets Unwrapped, a new podcast from Ferrero and Atlantic Rethink, the Atlantic's creative marketing studio, where I dive into the stories behind America's favorite treats.

Ich bin Carla Lally-Musik, Kochbuchautorin und kürbische Nahrungsgeberin und die Hostin von Sweets Unwrapped, einem neuen Podcast von Ferrero und Atlantic Rethink, der Atlantik-Kreativ-Marketing-Studio. Habt ihr jemals gewusst, woher die Haselnüsse und Nutella kommen? Oder wie Keebler seit über einem Jahrhundert gestanden ist?

Ich bin Carla Lally-Musik, Kochbuchautorin und kürbische Nahrungsgeberin und die Hostin von Sweets Unwrapped, einem neuen Podcast von Ferrero und Atlantic Rethink, der Atlantik-Kreativ-Marketing-Studio. Habt ihr jemals gewusst, woher die Haselnüsse und Nutella kommen? Oder wie Keebler seit über einem Jahrhundert gestanden ist?

Ich bin Carla Lally-Musik, Kochbuchautorin und kürbische Nahrungsgeberin und die Hostin von Sweets Unwrapped, einem neuen Podcast von Ferrero und Atlantic Rethink, der Atlantik-Kreativ-Marketing-Studio. Habt ihr jemals gewusst, woher die Haselnüsse und Nutella kommen? Oder wie Keebler seit über einem Jahrhundert gestanden ist?